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Enter Sandman

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Watching the CNTCs recently reminded me of the extensive and grueling length of championship events. It is extraordinary, which is why of course most enter six handed. I was privileged to be a commentator on Vugraph during the final session. It was a fabulous event to watch. The lead changing hands and the match exceptionally close. Ross Taylor noted that his team was ahead after 96 boards, only to lose the final segment and the event. Ross of course was not complaining. My point is that at any given cut off point any team can win. The higher the number of boards favours (sic) one party.

We all understand in a Swiss match of 7 or 8 boards, anyone can win. Shit – I beat Barry Crane in a 7 board Swiss so David beating Goliath is hardly unheard of in a short session.

Over 128 boards – not a prayer.  If you happen to be leading Meckwell after 64 boards – is that not sufficient evidence to prove you deserve the title? Why just 128 – why not 32, 50, 64, 100, 180 or 256? How many is enough? Where did 128 come from? I would interested in knowing how the expert community feels. I do know many complain about the length of the events, but has anyone ever consulted within the expert community to determine a consensus? I would expect the higher up the food chain – the more such a player would prefer extended length. And like Baron, it has a corollary.

Is it tradition? (no)

At one time, the Spingold was a double elimination event, usually lasting nine or 10 sessions. It was scored by International Match Points and was restricted to players with 100 or more masterpoints. (Source-Wikipedia)

Why and when was it changed? I know the Spingold/Vanderbilt et. al. have the same 128 board format – which clearly favours the “superior” team. If I was on the superior team, I would sure prefer that format. However, on the off-chance you or I were an underdog (tough as it may be to believe) against the likes of Fred, Zia, Martel, (and in my case many of lesser rank), who wouldn’t prefer a shorter match?

That change (to 128) cannot have been an accident, it was by design. It seems to me that 128 boards in some ways is akin to 120 minute NFL football game or an 18 inning baseball game. It provides the favourite a home field advantage. I suspect the law-makers and decision makers being of the elite rank deliberately installed this format to mitigate the Cinderella factor. And why not? Who does said format favor? We all know the answer to that.

My questions are assuming the final for a major event:

1) Is 128 too long?

2) Does 64 suffice?

3) Is 32 adequate?

3) If yes or no to 1 ,2 or 3 – what number is best? Why?

 

C

 

Remember Bud Fox in Wall Street screaming at Gordon Gekko – “how much is enough Gordon??????”

Of course Gekko doesn’t see it in that light, but it is a fair question – how much is enough?

 

 

 

 

 

C


26 Comments

Ulf NilssonJune 11th, 2010 at 11:48 am

I believe in extending any trials final to more than 1 day. Beyond that, the values diminshes. 2*64 boards means that you have to cope with the possibility of a momentum change that a nights sleep might bring. Trials should have somewhat similar conditions as the event the trials qualify you for. Knockouts at Bermuda Bowl or Olympiads spans over more than 1 day, so a trials final match should to. In Sweden our “trials” typically consists of many short 5-8 board matches when all championship matches consists of 16 or 20 boards sets. This I have critizised on more than one occasion. The momentum and ‘at-the-table’ psychology differs a lot. Currently it doesn’t matter much in Sweden but the principle applied is wrong.

Consider this example: If you select players for Davis Cup (i.e. tennis) for an away match vs [say] Australia you can expect the surface to be grass. Then you should of course pick among your best grass players and have them bat it out on such a court. You wouldn’t pick players doing their best results at the slower red clay courts (a la French Open court), would you?

For Spingold to extend to more than 1 day is no point. It’s long enough for a clearly better team to possibly overcome bad luck and still give an underdpg playing well a chance to knock off household names. Just right IMO.

Jon GreenJune 12th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

First to correct your information the Spingold and Vanderbilt are both 64 board matches for almost the entire event. The exception is day one which has byes and multi-way matches with the purpose of reducing the field to 64 (or 32) teams. The double elimination format you mention was abandoned more than 40 years ago. With a few notable exceptions the ACBL Board of Directors is not composed of elite players so that is not a factor in the format chosen, IMO.

Why 64 board matches? Technically some multiple of 16 is desirable, though not essential, because all possible dealer/vulnerability conditions occur in a 16 board set.

Why 64 instead of 48 or 32? The reason for being of a National K-O is to determine the best team, and reducing the Cinderella Factor is in line with that objective. Why would we want to randomize the results of our most prestigious national championship events? There are lots of events for less ambitious players including Swisses. It should be okay to have events that target the elite as well.

Usually the teams that plays best will win a 64 board whether that’s the favorite or the underdog. The luck factor is much greater in a 32 board match. Longer matches would not work as well because the events are contested over the course of a 10 day NABC and the first two or three days are a pair event. Therefore the K-O is scheduled to conclude in the remaining week of the NABC. There are practical reasons for the chosen match length.

It’s even more essential for the trials to select the best team since the prize is to represent our zone in the world championships. So it’s appropriate to have 96 or 128 board matches in the late stages. the scheduling for the trials is also more flexible. Ditto for the actual World Championships.

Bobby WolffJune 13th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

Ulf and Jon (above), each in his own way together, cover most of the waterfront, while discussing high-level bridge competition.

If there was one historical caveat, passed down through the ages for all Conditions of Contest (COC) writers, covering all forms of structured competition this old world has ever known, it would, in my opinion, concisely be:

1. Within the time frame allotted, the most important factor to be considered is to construct the COC in such a way as to give the player or team playing better than anyone else at that time the very best chance to win the event. In the absence of unusual extenuating circumstances, every other consideration ranks behind that goal.

2. Too often factors such as logistics, money (or lack thereof), politics, or personal agendas have sometimes had an unwanted effect on Number 1.

3. Be that as it may, it doesn’t reduce the importance for the COC writers to honor commitment #1 for trying their hardest to make it as likely as possible for the supreme player or team to have the best chance to win, again keeping in mind the various logistical problems present in constructing the proper format for so doing.

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That’s cleared my thoughts. Thanks for contributing.

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